2025-03-07

Hanging with God

(& other very scary things Jesus led his followers into)

Why do humans need time in God’s presence, looking, listening, thinking, making hypotheses and testing them out, drawing conclusions, & contributing to the model to be used by both God and the person for relating, (within and about God’s world) and allowing  knowledge (both ways) to grow?

Because knowledge of a person, is a reciprocal thing, and is like a growing plant (which is a kind of friendship that extends through & beyond the roles which both play).The two of you are developing your own language and meaning structures together (E.g. Sandy’s “Small-Group, Fast-Communication” Game; Geof with his horse Jackson; the people who watched Jesus’ dramatic “looking for breakfast figs and on finding none, not sharpening the axe and striking the tree (as John the Baptist envisioned), but simply speaking the end of the “facade” that was the barren fig-tree”; those who, the next day, SAW the withered Fig Tree; it was these people (& no others) who could then hear Jesus’ words about speaking to a mountain, and asking with faith (& potentially see through the problem outlined in Lewis’ article on petitionary prayer, types A & B).


E.g. For me, with my grandson, who is presently in my daughter (Annabelle) ’s tummy it is the same, he is SLOWLY getting to know me… because his senses are forming etc… but it is slow work for me getting to know him too, because his personality is forming…. He is not just a static ENTITY. And come to think of it, neither am I! (Jesus' best picture for us is “as little children”, it is True, that there are valid aspects to other pictures too, (as John uses other metaphors) “young men”, & “old men”. But the one that is essential, to never lose sight of, to keep coming back to, is “little children”, because in the words of Jesus, with a little child standing in the midst of them: “The kingdom of heaven belongs to such as these”. And considering John’s use of words to those he writes his letters to, (maybe even in relation to himself, with all his hopes and wishes for them, let alone in relation to God, with all God’s hopes and wishes for them), he falls back to using this “little children” epithet most often.


Actually my en-utero grandson is probably the best model for understanding myself: I am set on a wild goose chase if I try to “find myself”, as though such a thing now exists. I am a foetus, coming into existence. Yes, one day I may have grown, and have become a “big MAN” (in the words of my currently 2 yr old grandson), but for now it is a futile gesture to focus on understanding my -self (or any other human I meet up with here, except in a way that sees their developing selves as reflections of the Self from whom all self-hood has been, & is derived, and can be, and will be derived.) Creative love is the only real self that we could start to know¹, as little as that may be possible, while in this womb-world (except that this womb-world, while, as with any human womb, it hides us from seeing our parents’ faces, it is also designed to give us the closest possible connection to what our mother/father is doing, and to start this learning process, to come to understand, to be “becoming” a self, in relationship i.e. with language and understanding. That is why it must be “Journey before Destination”, and intrinsic Identity before Name,  before built Identity, before NAME. E.G. “X” “formerly known as” Twitter.



Bibliography:

  • Clues to Creation in Genesis, by Donald Wiseman

  • The Language of Creation by Pageau

  • The Master and his Emissary by Ian McGilchrist

  • The Christian Scriptures (including the Hebrew Bible).



End Note


¹  “knowledge of God” can mean 

  1. knowing about God; or 

  2. understanding his ways by seeing the consistency they have with his character and motivation; or 

  3. actually knowing God, as a person knows a friend. 

God won’t settle for less than this 3rd option. It is possible that God “made the heavens and the Earth” (what we call the Universe) in order to make up friends. Compare these passages below on what it means to know God, or be known by God:


“Learn what I teach you, my child, and never forget what I tell you to do. [2] Listen to what is wise and try to understand it. [3] Yes, beg for knowledge; plead for insight. [4] Look for it as hard as you would for silver or some hidden treasure. [5] If you do, you will know what it means to fear the LORD and you will succeed in learning about God. [6] It is the LORD who gives wisdom; from him come knowledge and understanding. [7] He provides help and protection for those who are righteous and honest. [8] He protects those who treat others fairly, and guards those who are devoted to him. [9] If you listen to me, you will know what is right, just, and fair. You will know what you should do. [10] You will become wise, and your knowledge will give you pleasure. [11] Your insight and understanding will protect you [12] and prevent you from doing the wrong thing. They will keep you away from people who stir up trouble by what they say — [13] those who have abandoned a righteous life to live in the darkness of sin, [14] those who find pleasure in doing wrong and who enjoy senseless evil, [15] unreliable people who cannot be trusted.” (Proverbs 2:1-15 GNBUK)


“The LORD has an accusation to bring against the people who live in this land. Listen, Israel, to what he says: “There is no faithfulness or love in the land, and the people do not acknowledge me as God.” (Hosea 4:1 GNBUK)


“But the LORD says, “Israel and Judah, what am I going to do with you? Your love for me disappears as quickly as morning mist; it is like dew, that vanishes early in the day. [5] That is why I have sent my prophets to you with my message of judgement and destruction. What I want from you is plain and clear: [6] I want your constant love, not your animal sacrifices. I would rather have my people know me than burn offerings to me.” (Hosea 6:4-6 GNBUK)


“It is the duty of priests to teach the true knowledge of God. People should go to them to learn my will, because they are the messengers of the LORD Almighty.” (Malachi 2:7 GNBUK)


“In the past you did not know God, and so you were slaves of beings who are not gods. [9] But now that you know God — or, I should say, now that God knows you — how is it that you want to turn back to those weak and pitiful ruling spirits? Why do you want to become their slaves all over again? (Galatians 4:8-9 GNBUK)


“Now, concerning what you wrote about food offered to idols. It is true, of course, that “all of us have knowledge”, as they say. Such knowledge, however, puffs a person up with pride; but love builds up. [2] Those who think they know something really don't know as they ought to know. [3] But the person who loves God is known by him.” (1 Corinthians 8:1-3 GNBUK)


“It is true that we live in the world, but we do not fight from worldly motives. [4] The weapons we use in our fight are not the world's weapons but God's powerful weapons, which we use to destroy strongholds. We destroy false arguments; [5] we pull down every proud obstacle that is raised against the knowledge of God; we take every thought captive and make it obey Christ. [6] And after you have proved your complete loyalty, we will be ready to punish any act of disloyalty.” (2 Corinthians 10:3-6 GNBUK)


“For this reason we have always prayed for you, ever since we heard about you. We ask God to fill you with the knowledge of his will, with all the wisdom and understanding that his Spirit gives. [10] Then you will be able to live as the Lord wants and will always do what pleases him. Your lives will produce all kinds of good deeds, and you will grow in your knowledge of God. [11-12] May you be made strong with all the strength which comes from his glorious power, so that you may be able to endure everything with patience. And with joy give thanks to the Father, who has made you fit to have your share of what God has reserved for his people in the kingdom of light. [13] He rescued us from the power of darkness and brought us safe into the kingdom of his dear Son, [14] by whom we are set free, that is, our sins are forgiven.” (Colossians 1:9-14 GNBUK)


“May grace and peace be yours in full measure through your knowledge of God and of Jesus our Lord.” (2 Peter 1:2 GNBUK)





body wearing out,

new self running in..



Oh God, please help your son we know as Neil

so though uncertainties are round about

and shortness of this breath of life he feels,

he may hold true to friendships, and not flout


commitments that have been his guiding light,

the knowledge gained by owning your love's name,

and learning to respond in kind, not shite

all over others, just because he’s pained.


Please give him grace to learn from you lament -

to live (& die) his heart pierced with a sword,

or maybe spear (which is a sword with length)

as one who had a heart, and wasn’t bored.


But truthing it with love, a human grows

up into that maturity that is

lived on this earth in way that Jesus shows

us will be full of glory like to his.


And that’s the way I think that Neil has picked

to settle in his heart of hearts and be

real grateful for the time of life that’s ticked

on by, and comes towards us each day - free!


His years here, shorter than for-ever-more

seem now to me, cut short (as seemed with Christ).

Recalling now the reason we’re here for:

reflecting glory to where it’s demised.


Then body number “three” (might not have blood, 

though flesh and bones are what disciples saw,

and heard, & touched, and held) - seems like a flood

of sensed-ness, to match what your kids implored.



*  Our “first body was basically “flesh and blood” (& cartilage), & although we had lungs and a blood flow system that could take our blood through them to oxygenate the blood, they weren’t used or even blown up, we had a gastrointestinal tract but it just collected dead skin cells and test secretions, we got our nourishment not through our gastrointestinal (GI) system, but through our umbilical cord, etc,

Our “second body” is the one that the first is transformed into at birth, with blown up lungs, a GI tract that starts to gain nourishment and produce poo, instead of marconium; after the next transformation humans who are connected to Christ are destined to gain & become their “third body”, like Jesus’ resurrected body, with flesh and bones, able to be touched and held, but no blood mentioned or leaking from holes in side & heart, or hands etc, able to eat and “disappear” food, could walk with, talk with, prep food for, and eat food with, but also was able to appear and disappear though all doors were locked… (Jesus’ Ambassador Paul, said “mortality will be swallowed up by immortality” - or that concept of coming out of this womb-world into the very life of Yahweh-God, the αἰώνιος ζωὴ (aionios zoé), that is not dependant on food, or air, but lives on, in, & through hesed (loyal-covenant-family-love) itself - that simply keeps its word.




2025-02-20

Commentary on John1:14-18

 John 1:14-18



A translation:


14And the Word became flesh and lived among us, and we have seen his glory, the glory as of a father’s only son, full of grace and truth. 15(John testified to him and cried out, “This was he of whom I said, ‘He who comes after me ranks ahead of me because he was before me.’ ”) 16From his fullness we have all received, grace upon grace. 17The law indeed was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ. 18No one has ever seen God. It is the only Son, himself God, who is close to the Father’s heart, who has made him known. (John 1:14-18 NRSVUE)




A “gemara” (not only translating the language, but interpreting for the people, whatever is needed to fill them in so that they can make enough sense of it to actually live in line with it; from the original generalized language (Common Greek) of the new generalised people of God, (from the world Empire before the then “current” Roman one) into 21st Century English, the language of The Western Industrialism Age, a society that had thrown God out, though their language holds some remnants of God’s influence, and there are remnants of God-fearers among them):




14God’s word that spoke the heavens and the Earth

into existence (as more rich than just

a Universe, ‘coz metaphor was birthed

in that one action, for all culture must


address the first beginnings in a way

that has a backdrop, or that won’t allow

for other things to even have a say,

or influence this life on Earth somehow.


This same word, or this message from the God 

that came to all the prophets in the past

& filled them in enough to keep from what

would bring destruction (so no good would last)


has now come here to us, so rich and full,

full-bodied, three dimensional & round,

so strong, initiating, beautiful 

that it was like a best friend that you found


coming then to live with you and share

life for a good long stay, where friendship grows

in strength, commitment, realness and care

the beauty of a friend who really knows


not just the surface, but our background too,

our family, and theirs is shared with us.

- what an amazing fam-i-ly. A true 

embodiment of kindness/thoughtfulness.


15(And John, his relative, he let the cat

out of the bag when he leaked, as he said,

the inside story. “Let me just say that

I’m older, so was here on Earth ahead 


of him.  But he’s ahead, well, all the time;

because he was around and coming to

folk way ahead of “me” & all that’s mine,

the heavens and the Earth - to me & you


16From his amazingly full thoughtfulness,

from his creative wisdom we’ve received, 

this goodness, power, and kindness heaped to bless.

The 17Laws and regulations heaven weaved


came down to us through Moses - man of God; 

but friendly laughing with reality 

came down to us through Jesus Christ. And what 

tall poppy, “god of men, & man” is he!


It’s true that old, old saying that 18”No one 

has ever seen the uncreated God,

whose word made ev’ry thing, when that was done.

But if we have seen Jesus, you know what?


- we kind of have seen God, or better yet, 

we’ve got to know him; it’s the only Son,

himself part of the family (who’d suspect?) 

who’s closest to the Father’s heart. Knowing’s begun.


A new and living way - through whom God’s* known, 

the Son’s enabling us to get to know,

and trust and love him, as his life has shown,

in all of life and death. A word/ whole show!


(a poetic gamara- an explanation, of John 1:14-18)



14And the word from God that spoke the universe into existence, this same message from God that came to & entered all the prophets to fill them in enough to turn the people of God back from destruction, and which has now come to us was so rich and full-bodied, so rounded and strong, so three dimensional and beautiful that it was like a best friend coming to live with you for a good long stay. We got to know it much better and our friendship grew in commitment, strength, realness and beauty. We really got to know our friend’s whole family better, and what an amazing family. A true family embodying true and thoughtful relating.  15(John, his relative, let the cat out of the bag when he let us know some of the inside story. “I’m older in birthdays than him, so I was around on Earth ahead of  him.  But he is way ahead of me, because he was actually around way ahead of “me” & mine, the heavens and Earth .”) 16From his amazingly full thoughtfulness and creative wisdom we have all received, goodness, power, and thoughtfulness heaped on goodness, power, & thoughtfulness. 17Laws and regulations  came to us through Moses; but laughing reality came through Jesus Christ. 18No one has ever seen God. But if we have seen Jesus, we kind of have seen God, or better, because we’ve got to know him; it is the only Son, himself part of the family, who is close to the Father’s heart, through whom he’s* known, the Son is enabling us to get to know, and trust and love him. 

(a gamara- an explanation, of John 1:14-18)




*  “he’s known”  can stand for either, or both, “he is known (by us)”, or “he has known (us).” taking into account not only John, but the books of Matthew (“the king shall say, ‘I have never known you’ ”) and Galatians (“..now that we have known God, or rather let me say “God has  known us”)



2025-02-14

Saint Valentine’s Day 2025



Oh God, I’m here to learn to be a man.

Or maybe that’s too small a goal itself.

To learn to give away the man I am

to grow invisibly some kind of health


of being which itself cannot be seen.

A creature which, no light has ever  touched,

though no less real, if you know what I mean.

We’re meant to learn to partner - very much


within a bigger body, which humans 

can sense (but not through naked sense alone)

it is discerned by metaphor and can

be sensed with common sense, and then be known.


With flesh and bony body, which in some

poetic kind of understanding stands.

No other creature on the earth has come

quite near to understanding it. Humans


can “get it”, as one might just “get” a joke.

But maybe not these bigger bodies, though

if all the humans in them laughed and spoke

together, social bodies might more show.


Become more visible to human eyes,

as friendship, say, might then somehow be seen,

appreciated, not so much disguised.

We might then sense what now we only mean.


That humming, crooning, happy as a purr,

of t-w-o-man* that can then sustain those who

have partnered to comprise it, though they were

before like single cells, just One & Two.


Though similar in very many ways,

yet diff’rent ’nough to fit together well,

as friendship, or as parenting displays.

This partnership embodies anti-hell.


Though, sometimes is can be the portal for

enable-ing the stuff of hell to hold

and multiply, to get some purchase, more

like form a bridgehead, from which sortés bold-


ly go out hunting, gathering their stuff,

to help hell be the big reality,

“de owner” with its purchased pow’r enough

to overthrow, and conquer, by its greed.


But this one human who lives in those worlds

of thoughts and words and acts that bring on change

will recognise and grow the love that’s hurled

so far into a future that's arranged


as possibility right from the start.

And then creative love’s “partnered” with some,

to bring it on, & out, from at the heart

of ev’rything & ev’ry “partnered” one.




*  t-w-o-man (pronounced tw-omen), the (mythical though real) creature formed on Earth, within the present evil age, from which all human individuals are born. In the present set-up, no human ever comes from another single human. A little part of a human has to be placed in a secret place in a second human. This partnership must be enacted (& it sometimes sustains, as the habits of eating and drinking sustain humanity) on the stage of human history for a new likeness of creative love to develop.